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I've recently installed a JW-Offroad front bumper on my '24 GX550.
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wanted to share some issues that have come up, which seem general for most if not all GX550 front bumpers I've seen (dissent, jw, victory)-

A few notes first-
I always DIY. This way I know exactly what I got and what to look out for. Also for long term maintenance.
I chose the JW-Offroad bumper because my experience with a winch says that easy access is critical. can't have it facing down like in some designs, and can't have the clutch lever hidden inside the engine bay. I wanted the winch, not the lights. The GX has plenty of lights.
I didn't want to trim the front fascia, and I did want to keep it daily friendly. the Dissent bumper is probably better for offroad, but I'm not sure I can live with it on a daily in my suburban household.

Specific to the JW bumper- it comes in 3 parts. main center piece and 2 wings. I know some others do it too. Apparently this is for cheaper freight shipping as it can be shipped in multiple lighter packages. Maybe this won't be an issue once an aluminum bumper comes out. Connecting the pieces together is tricky due to tight space and high torque needed on those bolts. I doubt the wings will hold any serious impact, but I don't think I'll use this car the same way I use my Jeep, so it's ok for me.

A concern I have with the design is that the edges/wings, the parts in front of the tires, leave a giant gap between the fender liner and the bumper. Those side wings do not cover under the hood. Once you install this, there's a big empty space where the OEM skid and plastics used to cover. I don't think there's any change you'll hit it with a rock or such, but it does look like mud will go right up and mess up with some very delicate wiring (and the turbocharger coolers).
I've covered it with some plastic I got at homedepot, but I'm not happy about it. that plastic with the fender liners will just fly off if I hit deep water too fast.

But the real concern I have with GX front bumper designs is that these bumpers are too close to the front fascia.
There's about a quarter inch between the top of the bumper and the plastic front fascia. This is similar to all the GX550 bumpers i've seen. Even the dissent one.
Since the fascia is mounted to the body while the new bumper is mounted to the frame (the OEM bumper is also part of the body), they can move relative to each other.

Basically fast travel over any rough road, where the body mounts flex, will cause the body to shake compared to the frame and cause the bumper to hit the plastic fascia.
I'm thinking going fast over washboards and backroads, not rock crawling. Rock crawling is actually slow and controlled.
Washboards and backroads are the use cases I'm aiming for with this car. Overlanding.
That front fascia is going to break, fly off, or worse- damage the headlights, if it gets hit too hard from below.

If you look at the rear bumper of any of the companies that sell them, they have a different wrap-around design, that does not have this problem.
They specifically made the rear bumpers go around the plastic pieces as to not hit them from below when the body moves relative to the frame.

Any thoughts on this?
 

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I have the same bumper.

I agree with you about the major real estate missing plastic coverage on the underside. I planned on installing some plastic with rivnuts or something similar but I haven't gotten around to it. I also have a couple wires hanging down in the front corner.

I haven't seen any problems with the area where the steel abuts the plastic front fascia. My steel bumper and the plastic fascia are actually touching in the very middle. I don't things would flex that much to cause any issues. I installed this bumper in February so I have about 7,000 miles on it now with plenty of off roading, washboards, flexing, etc.

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I'll just leave this video here-

Those body mounts flex.
I'm glad to hear you didn't notice any issues after so many miles of offroading. gives me some confidence.
I also like your idea of using rivets. I was considering just drilling through and using a nut/bolt combo or even welding some thin metal piece (if I only knew how to weld).

(note the video is a Tundra, but it's mechanically very similar to the GX550, also same engine and most suspension components).
 
Found a better buy on those zip ties - 100 pieces for a bit less, plus about half the shipping cost:

Amazon.com

Just ordered some - I have all sorts of places I could use these. I break about half the damn plastic connectors every time I take something apart.
 
Found a better buy on those zip ties - 100 pieces for a bit less, plus about half the shipping cost:

Amazon.com

Just ordered some - I have all sorts of places I could use these. I break about half the damn plastic connectors every time I take something apart.
I've been in the cell tower business for longer than I care to remember - the world works on cable/zip ties and duct tape.
 
LOL....I'm (hopefully) going to be able to use these zip ties today. I partially ripped off my passenger rear wheel arch plastic while off roading last Wednesday & Thursday. Broke a few of the stock plastic connectors and just noticed it this morning.
 
For what it’s worth: the Dissent bumper comes with a powder coated metal trim piece that closes that area. Also the gap between the bumper and the plastic body pieces is 3/4” minimum. Then you install a bulb seal that makes the gap appear smaller, but is still soft.
 

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I've hit plenty of washboards & whoops and climbed rocks and all sorts of things to make it flex and I haven't seen any indications of conflicts between the bumper and the body panels. I just washed Junior and the only problem with the front plastic body panels is the damn bugs that have become part of the PPF. Flex, however, is not an issue.

On anther note, those little zip ties that I linked fixed my loose wheel arch. Worked like a champ. Now I have 99 left.
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Hi,
Was the crash bar removed for this install? Any potential issue with that in front collision ?
Also as far as the uncovered area, looks like cbi has some sort of plating extension that goes all the way to the fender liner ?
 

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Oh yeah I zip tied the hell out of both my bumpers and the wheel trims. Drilled lots of little zip tie holes in bottom of that rear bumper cover. For my JW install, I did not cut my fender liner. Instead, I used a heat gun and heated up the fender liner along a place where I subsequently bent it forwards and then, yep you guessed it, zip tied the hell out of it to the back sides of the bumper wings. This very nicely covered up that opening but the bumper still needs a plate to cover more open area. It would be nice if he designed it with specific way to deal with the liner.
 

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