2025 OT Lift

[matthewjoney]

Has anyone actually lifted a 2025 OT yet? Where I have looked (and 2 places I’ve called) all says there’s no available kit that works with the E-KDSS.

 

[SFLGX]

The E-KDSS was on 2024 too. Only difference in 2025 seems to be taller springs, so no reason a 24 liftkit shouldn't work on 2025.

 

[gvan1998]

Anybody purchased the 25 springs and installed them on the 24s. I was going to purchase them until my local mechanic told me $700 to install the springs, 5 hours of labor per the book.

500 plus 700 install, a total of 1200 for 1 inch lift.

 

[turbo8]

Anybody purchased the 25 springs and installed them on the 24s. I was going to purchase them until my local mechanic told me $700 to install the springs, 5 hours of labor per the book.

500 plus 700 install, a total of 1200 for 1 inch lift.

Do you have the part numbers?

 

[Dragoon]

This guy found one…

 

[serbiansizzle]

^burn it

 

[Lagunatic4x4]

Most lifts work with the e-kdss. What doesn’t work would be the AVS. There’s currently nothing out there that allows that to continue to function. ICON is close to releasing their AVS-compatible kit though. They have a few GXs out there testing it as we speak.

 

[TmoEng]

Most lifts work with the e-kdss. What doesn’t work would be the AVS. There’s currently nothing out there that allows that to continue to function. ICON is close to releasing their AVS-compatible kit though. They have a few GXs out there testing it as we speak.

Is that only if you change out the front dampers, or does it also no longer work with different springs with original dampers?

 

[Lagunatic4x4]

the AVS is electronic, so it has a wire that actually connects to a wire coming out of the front shock. So when replacing that front shock with anything currently on the market, they won't have the capability/functionality, nor the wire, to reconnect that. If that makes sense? I'm the furthest thing from an expert, but this is information I got directly from Dissent Off-Road, ICON, and Dobinsons as I go through my build.

I'm currently waiting on ICON to release their capable system so that I can swap out my Overtrail+ suspension for their CDEV system.

 

[TmoEng]

the AVS is electronic, so it has a wire that actually connects to a wire coming out of the front shock. So when replacing that front shock with anything currently on the market, they won't have the capability/functionality, nor the wire, to reconnect that. If that makes sense? I'm the furthest thing from an expert, but this is information I got directly from Dissent Off-Road, ICON, and Dobinsons as I go through my build.

I'm currently waiting on ICON to release their capable system so that I can swap out my Overtrail+ suspension for their CDEV system.

I think it would work to keep the damper (with the wire) and replace just the coil over spring. (Similar to the rear, where there is no wire)
That should give the lift and is likely how Lexus did the lift on the 2025. The Overtrail has plenty of stock down travel so sacrificing 1 inch for more ride height is straightforward.

I don't think 1 inch is enough to change any part of the geometry enough for Lexus to change the UCA or CVs.

What I'm not sure about is if the AVS has a different map on the 2025.

 

[Lagunatic4x4]

I think it would work to keep the damper (with the wire) and replace just the coil over spring. (Similar to the rear, where there is no wire)
That should give the lift and is likely how Lexus did the lift on the 2025. The Overtrail has plenty of stock down travel so sacrificing 1 inch for more ride height is straightforward.

I don't think 1 inch is enough to change any part of the geometry enough for Lexus to change the UCA or CVs.

What I'm not sure about is if the AVS has a different map on the 2025.

If you’re strictly looking for only a lift and not improved/different suspension, then yes. I have a temporary spacer in there now and it works fine for what it is.

 

[TmoEng]

If you’re strictly looking for only a lift and not improved/different suspension, then yes. I have a temporary spacer in there now and it works fine for what it is.

Got it, thanks for the reply!