Premature Toyo Tire Wearing

[Emergencymed]

The stock Toyos suck donkey ass. Lexus needs to recall them

lol vivid description Incognito.gx …

 

[Emergencymed]

Yellowlab let us know what tire you finally decide on… I’ve got a long way to go on mine … but good to know from this thread that the life of these tires is 1/2 of what is expected - (15k - 18k max!! ) … with normal use.

 

[incognito.gx]

Personally think im just going to replace my OEMs with the 275/70 EV version when they go. My GX is a daily first & foremost.

 

[S SUBERI]

Wheels and tires on mine were the first things to go. Seems like such a waste, but the OEM tires and wheels just don't seem to go with the purpose of these trucks.

 

[vraa]

this is really common,

So clearly to me Lexus dumbed down the tire a bit to achieve the aesthetics and MPG and ride it wanted.

porsche benz and bmw and a few others have different versions of the michelins, its a pita, especially when trying to buy the right tire in person

 

[SROak]

just dropped by for the 15k service and was told I need 2 new tires

I found out after purchasing my 2023 4Runner that unfortunately all new cars are fitted with tires with 1/3-1/2 normal retail tread, thus will last between 1/3 to 1/2 normal range.

Vehicle manufacturers do that to save $$$ as they can save $200-300 per vehicle by installing these good, but not full tread depth, tires. I was shocked to learn that we don't get full-warranty full-mileage tires with new vehicles anymore. But "follow the money". This policy saves hundreds of millions dollars for the manufacturers so I'm surprised that it didn't happen sooner.

My 2024 GX 550 is no different. I've got 11,000 miles on my tires and I'm already shopping around for new ones. This time I was expecting it and was watching my tires closely.

 

[Billy]

I just hit 18k with my Open Country. I need 4 new tires now! Looking for a different brand now. The Toyos are too soft. Nice ride but they don’t last long.

We're all looking for this answer... what is the best option that is not Toyo?

 

[S SUBERI]

I think the Toyo’s that come from the manufacturer are made softer than the ones you buy after market. I took my original tires off at 2k miles and I’m very happy with the 285/75 r17’s Toyo’s for ride, on and off road and wear

 

[YellowLab]

I think the Toyo’s that come from the manufacturer are made softer than the ones you buy after market. I took my original tires off at 2k miles and I’m very happy with the 285/75 r17’s Toyo’s for ride, on and off road and wear

The toyos sold on the GX have 25% less tread than do the normal Toyo same model tires. They did that to give it a soft ride off the showroom and better MPG.

 

[SROak]

We're all looking for this answer... what is the best option that is not Toyo?

Well, I just picked up a new "toy" (2006 Toyota Tacoma SR5 4x4 V6 D-cab w/ 57K original miles*) can attest that Falken WILDPEAK A/T AT3W tires that came on that truck have deep tread, but these Falken are the NOISIEST tires I have ever heard. Unbelievably noisy! I'm torn about replacing those, because they have so much tread, with getting something that will shut the hail up - my GX's Toyo Open Countrys sound deliciously quiet now. Take home: avoid Falken WIldPeak WILDPEAK A/T AT3W tires unless you want them singing the highway sound loud and off-key.

*entirely different story

better MPG.

Car mfg match tires with new vehicle models for lowest mpg to get approval on Federal (CAFE) and State standards. This is such a big thing now that my lovely California legislature just passed a law requiring (starting in 3 years) that you must use either the identical brand of tire sold new on your vehicle, or one with even lower rolling resistance. I plan to go with the Toyo Open Country again. There's varying opinions on how this will affect vehicle owners, but most experts agree that tire availability (thus costs) will go up significantly. No surprise there, as CA already has the highest gas prices in the country.

 

[RPMSTL]

I stuck with my factory Toyos until 31,000 miles.

They were cupped, missing small chunks and very worn.
Started to get quite noisy as well.

Still enjoying the new Pirelli's.

 

[GR8Santini]

Well, I just picked up a new "toy" (2006 Toyota Tacoma SR5 4x4 V6 D-cab w/ 57K original miles*) can attest that Falken WILDPEAK A/T AT3W tires that came on that truck have deep tread, but these Falken are the NOISIEST tires I have ever heard. Unbelievably noisy! I'm torn about replacing those, because they have so much tread, with getting something that will shut the hail up - my GX's Toyo Open Countrys sound deliciously quiet now. Take home: avoid Falken WIldPeak WILDPEAK A/T AT3W tires unless you want them singing the highway sound loud and off-key.

*entirely different story

Car mfg match tires with new vehicle models for lowest mpg to get approval on Federal (CAFE) and State standards. This is such a big thing now that my lovely California legislature just passed a law requiring (starting in 3 years) that you must use either the identical brand of tire sold new on your vehicle, or one with even lower rolling resistance. I plan to go with the Toyo Open Country again. There's varying opinions on how this will affect vehicle owners, but most experts agree that tire availability (thus costs) will go up significantly. No surprise there, as CA already has the highest gas prices in the country.

Might consider that the tire noise isn’t the structure on your Tacoma, but fair guess it could be past maintenance. The larger/wider tire you go, the more often you need to be checking alignment & especially rotating. Get an alignment is 1st step, then rotate & there is a chance if tires are close to new that the tread can even a bit out. Did that on some KO3s & caught it in time. Usually once A/T front tires get tread uneven the tires are going to talk & it’s too late.

CAFE is effecting tires for all of us. Can’t believe CA is going to make it worse. The A/T3WA on my new Tundra are a joke compared to your deep thread retail A/T3W Wildpeaks. Have A/T4W Wildpeaks on different vehicle that I really like & Discount Tire does free tire rotations every 3-5K miles (from buying them there) to prevent early tread wear.

 

[YellowLab]

I stuck with my factory Toyos until 31,000 miles.

They were cupped, missing small chunks and very worn.
Started to get quite noisy as well.

Still enjoying the new Pirelli's.

Mine died at 13K miles - never would have made it to 31K with the wear and cupping.

 

[MDV]

Note: My wife's RX has about 50k miles and the OEM tires are fine - majority freeway. The GX tires may be worse than other Lexus OEM's.

I had Slee sliders installed at about 4k miles and put on new, stock size Toyos at the same time given OEM Toyo's suckage. Honestly, I was fine with them, but hunting season is coming up and I didn't want to risk a flat in the field and it was already on the lift.