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Still good for some mild off-roading as well ?
Gx550 lift for smoother road driving.
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I know you don't need a lift.
A whole lot of lift might need a little more tire so no lift or a small level would look just right IMO
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Was just planning on doing 2.75 front and 0.75 rear. Take the rake out.
Lots of info in this forum. Suggest you go look @ reviews on several things & you make your own decisions regarding on road comfort -
20” GX550 Premium + wheel 20x7.5” -
Nice looking, very strong OE rim. Looks really good w/ AT tires mounted on them. Find take-off sets very easily that are affordable.
275/60R20 115T Falken Wildpeak A/T4W -
Large 33” tire, looks good in wheel well, comfortable ride @38# leaving tremendous load capability, 115T gives you lighter tire & T 118mph speed rating. Wildpeak 275s are larger & wider AT tires, but will handle like street tires in rain, dry, & are great in snow & mild off road. Make sure to stay with lighter load rating.
Puck Level kit 1.25” -
If you want to fix rake use Puck system as inexpensive & perfect for on-road & light off-road. GX springs are variable rate, & the Puck 1.25” spacer will increase preload slightly making the front springs compressed & firmer, but not at all un-compliant. Will handle better, reduce brake dive & still feel fine. Puck & Westcott concerns in my opinion are totally blown out of proportion that their preload ruins ride. The wrong load rated AT tires getting put on these luxury SUVs do much more to ruin ride. Really don’t need rear lift to level, unless you will be towing often w/ front level.
You’ll have nice looking rig, larger lighter comparable weight tires, leveled, & handle better.
20” GX550 Premium + wheel 20x7.5” -
Nice looking, very strong OE rim. Looks really good w/ AT tires mounted on them. Find take-off sets very easily that are affordable.
275/60R20 115T Falken Wildpeak A/T4W -
Large 33” tire, looks good in wheel well, comfortable ride @38# leaving tremendous load capability, 115T gives you lighter tire & T 118mph speed rating. Wildpeak 275s are larger & wider AT tires, but will handle like street tires in rain, dry, & are great in snow & mild off road. Make sure to stay with lighter load rating.
Puck Level kit 1.25” -
If you want to fix rake use Puck system as inexpensive & perfect for on-road & light off-road. GX springs are variable rate, & the Puck 1.25” spacer will increase preload slightly making the front springs compressed & firmer, but not at all un-compliant. Will handle better, reduce brake dive & still feel fine. Puck & Westcott concerns in my opinion are totally blown out of proportion that their preload ruins ride. The wrong load rated AT tires getting put on these luxury SUVs do much more to ruin ride. Really don’t need rear lift to level, unless you will be towing often w/ front level.
You’ll have nice looking rig, larger lighter comparable weight tires, leveled, & handle better.
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No lift or front is lifted with a leveling kit ? What tires are those?
no lift/level 100% stock nitto g3s
Hard truth is you can make the ride better but it will never be smooth like a luxury vehicle. OT+ owner and the stock ride was terrible but that’s not why you are buying it. Upgraded shocks to Fox factory race series and ride is significantly better. On road though my wife still complains how much she bounces around. It’s acceptable for me but she would never deal with it as a daily.
My brother in law's father owns a 2017 Lx570 and I had always desired to drive one + a 2014 Land Cruiser 200 series Sahara ( 4.5L TT diesel V8). I had the chance to drive them both back to back on the same roads vs my own 2022 Land Cruiser Prado.
I have also been driven in a 2024 Mercedes Benz G63 amg, driven a Toyota Fortuner , 2026 Lx600 our own 2026 GX550 overtrail , a 2025 Land Cruiser Prado 250 series Diesel and a 2026 Land Cruiser 300 series Sahara Zx ...
All of that here in panama.
I understand that ridequality till certain point unless there are very expensive instruments its gonna bee subjevtive.
Car and Driver did a comparison of suspension types..
One Bench mark was the Raptor 3.0 Live valve shocks and even those couldn't isolate the Body on Frame Vibrations...
Tested: How the Latest Suspension Technology Improves Ride Quality
An in-depth look into how modern suspensions manage our broken roads.
That Being said and going back to the opening statement, my brother in law's father as a long term Land Cruiser owner (80-100-150-200) he always refered to those vehicles that they Jump.. tossed around only that the expensive ones jump less and less...
In terms of vibrations the Lx vibrates(jiggles) too , the land Cruiser does to.. but to a very significant decrease against the 150 series Prado that I own... This is my assesment during my own testing on Panama Streets...
The hydraulic suspension from the Lx570 isolates more than the normal shocks from Land Cruiser... But even the land Cruiser is almost if not 60% better than prados normal shocks (kyb vs tockiko) on the prado....
I was amaZed...
What was really evident is weight..
The Land Cruiser and Lx does feel like a tank and you feel the wobble and movement of the cabin and how the brakes react agains the mass they carry ..
The Prado kdss in the other hand while stiffer( mine is stiffer not even toyota understands why) it drives really sporty ... Very little to noo body roll plus a extremely well controlled cabin that people are amazed that it drives like that ... But then again.. a sporty driving is not a plush ridee...
Soo to that statement we go into the new gen vehicles..
Being Panama We have all the products from toyota and just the Suv' from Lexus ....
So when the time camee we did our research...
Land Cruiser 300 series Sahara Zx $150,000.00 usd
Land Cruiser 250 series Prado Vx $98,000.00 usd
Lexus Lx600 Luxury $166,000.00 usd
Lexus Gx 550 Luxury $138,000.00 usd
Lexus Gx550 Overtrail $115,000.00
I did all the test driving and my bench mark is My 2022 Land Cruiser prado 150 series KdSS non adaptive dampers ...
After doing the research for the New vehicles at home... That took around 1 1/2 years between test driving each one...
This new Platform TNGA-F is stiffer than the previous One...
To start the Land Cruiser 200 series sahara vs Land Cruiser 300 series sahara zx...
One has kdss and the other has normal stabiliEr bars + AVS..
Toyota's approach and there is a 45 minute video of suspension development of this new Land Cruiser that they in fact went to the grounds of what causes driver fatigue on the LC200...
They discovered that what really cause that was the contineuos up and down jumping that made eyes tired....
So this new platform (lc300) really did magic on the "jumping" but they added road jigglee ...
That jigglee is aparent on all new TNGA-F...
The Lc300 is really smooth... And thats really weird to say about a BOF with live axle...
Yes now and then you are remined that there is a solid axle in the back but is extremely controlled...
That dude agains the pradoo (250) you do notice how less "plush " was made ...
How little effort was made to isolate sounds , vibrations, movements... And it feels rough around the edges....
But what was apparent is how little the Lc300 drove... Even being big.. and wide...
It does not drive like a tank.. its actually enjoying to drive + the new F33A-FTV 3.3L TT diesel V6 is such a powerhouse....
The Lx600 avs + AHC suspension ( interconected hydraulic dampers) updated version to the lx's onee... Is a land Cruiser 300 on steroids...
If anyone here owns one... Doing a test drive back to back to our own Gx500 overtrail was such a night and day experience that actually made me doubt of why we bought the Gx...
Look its almost 50k plus in panama over the Gx... But that suspension does really diminish the constant jumps, jiggles vibrations to an extent that has to be experienced..
After owning the Gx for 3 months its been difficult to understand the character of this vehicle...
The porpuse of the overtrail is what?
It works best as an overlander that's for sure....
But this suspension is not soft.. then again softness is different from one person to other ... Certain movements and sensations are more important than others ...
A pickup driver will love the gx...
But a previous 4runner or gx460 owner will not love it....
It's a good body on frame suv with off road capabilities and plushness till ceertain point ...
My conclusion is that lexus wanted an off roader but its pursuit of it with the design compromise was too far away from what a lexus Suv is... It needs a rework in the suspension department...
The Mt64 have been a good choice...
The Bp51 are available if not mistaken for the 300.series platform not sure is for the 250 there are available...
Springs sre too soft ... And the linear valving of the shocks does not use the available travel in the back in an efficcent nor intelligent way...
I loved I drive a lexus
I love the TT V6 response
I love the E-kdss
But the ride quality has work to be done.
@GMan93 are those rims 20's? Also do you have any rub when turning all the way as sharp as you can? Truck looks good! Nice look!
they're the stock 20s that come on the premium+. Nope no rubbing.
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