Gx550 lift for smoother road driving. (3 Viewers)

I would highly recommend not going larger than 20" for wheels if you want maximum ride comfort. A good A/T on a 20" wheel feels great on these trucks.

You will never be able to make up for a lack of sidewall with more suspension--the forces still transmit through even if the suspension dampens it.

If it's the twitchy behavior of the stock suspension you are looking to eliminate, I would recommend the Dobinsons Twin Tube Kit. It's affordable, top quality, and legitimately rides better than stock.
 
someone who has gone from stock OT suspension and wheels to coilovers and 35s

the stock suspension is garbage. coilovers amounted to the most for comfort in suspension. even with AVS rode like shit. i have king adjustable shocks.

second was that was detrimental to my ride was bigger tires with higher sidewall stiffness due to higher load ratings etc. i went from stock TOYOs to falken wildpeak AT4W 35/11.5r18 with 40psi and its ok but its not more comfortable than the stock tires.

it rides better than stock and ive adjusted the shocks to more soft
 
someone who has gone from stock OT suspension and wheels to coilovers and 35s

the stock suspension is garbage. coilovers amounted to the most for comfort in suspension. even with AVS rode like shit. i have king adjustable shocks.

second was that was detrimental to my ride was bigger tires with higher sidewall stiffness due to higher load ratings etc. i went from stock TOYOs to falken wildpeak AT4W 35/11.5r18 with 40psi and its ok but its not more comfortable than the stock tires.

it rides better than stock and ive adjusted the shocks to more soft
I generally agree with this, and it matches my experience and approach. My 2 cents:
I grew really tired and unhappy with the ‘24 OT AVS setup, so removed it.

Installed an MT64 suspension, big improvement in ride - both highway and around town, with excellent control. Absolutely love it. So relieved to not be constantly twisting the drive mode dial in search of an improved ride.

My E-rated tires I run anywhere from low to mid 30’s for day-to-day, and they are quite comfortable. So my total ride is greatly improved: plus I can still safely air down enough for off roading or air up for trailer towing.

With these changes I feel like I have a “GX from the future”, like it should be. 👏
 
someone who has gone from stock OT suspension and wheels to coilovers and 35s

the stock suspension is garbage. coilovers amounted to the most for comfort in suspension. even with AVS rode like shit. i have king adjustable shocks.

second was that was detrimental to my ride was bigger tires with higher sidewall stiffness due to higher load ratings etc. i went from stock TOYOs to falken wildpeak AT4W 35/11.5r18 with 40psi and its ok but its not more comfortable than the stock tires.

it rides better than stock and ive adjusted the shocks to more soft
Finally something interesting...
I have my debate against the avs from the overtrail...
Tell me more about those kings.
What kit is it?
Was it valved tuned?
Pricee?
 
I generally agree with this, and it matches my experience and approach. My 2 cents:
I grew really tired and unhappy with the ‘24 OT AVS setup, so removed it.

Installed an MT64 suspension, big improvement in ride - both highway and around town, with excellent control. Absolutely love it. So relieved to not be constantly twisting the drive mode dial in search of an improved ride.

My E-rated tires I run anywhere from low to mid 30’s for day-to-day, and they are quite comfortable. So my total ride is greatly improved: plus I can still safely air down enough for off roading or air up for trailer towing.

With these changes I feel like I have a “GX from the future”, like it should be. 👏
You are the second one who talks about the Mt64 being better..
Could you explain in what sensee?
 
You are the second one who talks about the Mt64 being better..
Could you explain in what sensee?
Angelito, So I’m heading out the door now for appts..
But you can start with this link and you’ll find my reasons ‘why’ I installed the MT64 and ‘how’ well it’s working for me.

Let me know of questions, I’m happy to help. And, there are several other forum members who discuss their MT64 experience. Just do a search for MT64.


DJ
 
I don't think you can achieve a lift with smoother Road Driving... this is impossible due to manufacturers using "linear" springs ..... any front aftermarket coil over you run will be more firm. Wescott preload collar will make the suspension firmer.... this is just the nature of the suspensions out today. They are only catered for weight carrying and "lift" with the compromise of comfort. This is coming from someone who is currently running Kings at 2025 Overtrail Stock Height (adjusted by King in Garden Grove CA) since the 2025 has the claimed 1" factory lift
 
I don't think you can achieve a lift with smoother Road Driving... this is impossible due to manufacturers using "linear" springs ..... any front aftermarket coil over you run will be more firm. Wescott preload collar will make the suspension firmer.... this is just the nature of the suspensions out today. They are only catered for weight carrying and "lift" with the compromise of comfort. This is coming from someone who is currently running Kings at 2025 Overtrail Stock Height (adjusted by King in Garden Grove CA) since the 2025 has the claimed 1" factory lift
In a vacuum, progressive springs ride better than linear springs. But in my experience, damping philosophy has a greater impact on ride quality than spring rates alone. DJ's Sled provided an excellent writeup on his experience going from stock to OME MT64 and his take is spot on with what I've experienced. Toyota/Lexus' suspension tuning philosophy is interesting and in my view can absolutely be improved upon even from strictly a ride quality perspective. They use aggressive high speed damping and mild low speed damping. Switching to something that's more digressive in nature will feel more natural, composed, and comfortable even on the street.

 
In a vacuum, progressive springs ride better than linear springs. But in my experience, damping philosophy has a greater impact on ride quality than spring rates alone. DJ's Sled provided an excellent writeup on his experience going from stock to OME MT64 and his take is spot on with what I've experienced. Toyota/Lexus' suspension tuning philosophy is interesting and in my view can absolutely be improved upon even from strictly a ride quality perspective. They use aggressive high speed damping and mild low speed damping. Switching to something that's more digressive in nature will feel more natural, composed, and comfortable even on the street.

I always felt digressive shocks were firm on the low speed and softened on the high speed , but when loaded felt very plush … but only when loaded
 
I always felt digressive shocks were firm on the low speed and softened on the high speed , but when loaded felt very plush … but only when loaded
Good digressive valving operates essentially as you've observed, but the actual feel and personality of the kit can vary a LOT. For example Bilstein and OME are both digressive but have completely different and unique personalities.

Digressive does not mean stiff, but rather it cheats a bit by "blowing off" rapid/high speed movements like chatter, expansion joints, etc. while firming up for low speed movements like pitch and body roll.

in my opinion it's the best of both worlds for a street-driven rig, when done correctly :)
 
Anyone heard anything about the eibach pro truck lift ? It’s saying it’s the Goldilocks for lifts far as on road driving and mild off road ?
 
Throw 275/65/20s on the stock 20" premium rims and call it a day. Get a Load C tire and it'll feel like driving on a cloud.
 
I have a 25 OT, and went with OME MT-64 3" lift for offroad purposes, and to fit 34s with no issues. I will say the ride was better with the OMEs compared to stock suspension, but not drastically for the costs. Again, it was only for approach angle for offroading at the beach, otherwise I would have not spent 4K on the lift kit itself. I went with 18x8.5r18 wheels, and 285/70 Toyo's ATs. Listen to these forum responses, 22s are for looks and NOT ride quality. Make sure you offroad tires are Load C or SL, and NOT E rated for ride quality.
 

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I have a 25 OT, and went with OME MT-64 3" lift for offroad purposes, and to fit 34s with no issues. I will say the ride was better with the OMEs compared to stock suspension, but not drastically for the costs. Again, it was only for approach angle for offroading at the beach, otherwise I would have not spent 4K on the lift kit itself. I went with 18x8.5r18 wheels, and 285/70 Toyo's ATs. Listen to these forum responses, 22s are for looks and NOT ride quality. Make sure you offroad tires are Load C or SL, and NOT E rated for ride quality.
That’s a great looking wheel, really unusual. What is the offset? And do you know what the wheel weight is? TIA. 😊
 
someone who has gone from stock OT suspension and wheels to coilovers and 35s

the stock suspension is garbage. coilovers amounted to the most for comfort in suspension. even with AVS rode like shit. i have king adjustable shocks.

second was that was detrimental to my ride was bigger tires with higher sidewall stiffness due to higher load ratings etc. i went from stock TOYOs to falken wildpeak AT4W 35/11.5r18 with 40psi and its ok but its not more comfortable than the stock tires.

it rides better than stock and ive adjusted the shocks to more soft
I have the same tires and only inflate 33f and 31r psi. I think 40 psi is overkill unless you are towing or carrying massive payload.
 
I have a 25 OT, and went with OME MT-64 3" lift for offroad purposes, and to fit 34s with no issues. I will say the ride was better with the OMEs compared to stock suspension, but not drastically for the costs. Again, it was only for approach angle for offroading at the beach, otherwise I would have not spent 4K on the lift kit itself. I went with 18x8.5r18 wheels, and 285/70 Toyo's ATs. Listen to these forum responses, 22s are for looks and NOT ride quality. Make sure you offroad tires are Load C or SL, and NOT E rated for ride quality.
Wheels and tires look great but my god the shop could have did you a solid and offer black lug nuts
 
I have a 2025 gx550 premium + and I want to get 22 inch rims with off road tires. Whats a good lift that’s good for the pavement that will be smoother and softer over bumps than the stock suspension but still good for some light off roading time to time ?
I don't know if you care much about fuel mileage anything larger will have more drag thus burn more fuel. I'm told by many Lexus shop folks larger tires puts stress on steering and suspension systems needed more alignments and replace parts my thoughts keep it stock will save you for many years. We all like fancy tires and rims but at what cost, you would think the mfg. would have an option for this but not this is telling us all something right. Good luck with your choice.
 
Anyone heard anything about the eibach pro truck lift ? It’s saying it’s the Goldilocks for lifts far as on road driving and mild off road ?
The Eibach Pro Truck is a good kit but IMO is not the goldilocks for on-road driving. It's good quality but definitely has less refined damping characteristics than something like the Dobinsons Twin Tube Kit. If I were chasing the best possible on-road ride quality with a mild lift, I would go for the Dobinsons. It will ride better than stock while still having superior body control.
 

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