New Toyota Recalled Announced: 2023 Tundra & Lexus LX vehicles

[jclaffee]

Not true as mine is on hold in port for inspection as I type this. No indication at this point if there is a problem but they are being inspected so obviously they were not cleared in the manufacturing process before they left Japan.

Are you positive that your hold is related to the engine recall?? Cause I've heard the GX hold could be related to a bunch of stuff including sunroof, paint etc.

 

[R!ck]

Not totally buying the debris theory, I heard that it has happened in engines built in Alabama and Japan. What are the chances that debris was left behind in two seperate assembly plants? I don't know but the jury is out yet on this issue as far as I'm concerned. Until it's resolved my name is off the waiting list. Maybe Infiniti Q60 is looking good to me.. Not exactly what i was looking for in style but reliability is a little more important to me.. Waiting on purchasing now untill later this fall or until the 2025's come out. Hopefully the facts come out and it's resolved..

 

[jclaffee]

Not totally buying the debris theory, I heard that it has happened in engines built in Alabama and Japan. What are the chances that debris was left behind in two seperate assembly plants? I don't know but the jury is out yet on this issue as far as I'm concerned. Until it's resolved my name is off the waiting list. Maybe Infiniti Q60 is looking good to me.. Not exactly what i was looking for in style but reliability is a little more important to me.. Waiting on purchasing now untill later this fall or until the 2025's come out. Hopefully the facts come out and it's resolved..

Well, if it's a process problem (related to how they clean machining debris out of the blocks for example), I'm pretty sure they follow the exact same documented process in different plants. But I hear you, I won't be buying a 2024 GX, or anything with this motor until this is made more clear, and new vehicles clearly are no longer spinning bearings.

 

[bandit67]

Not true as mine is on hold in port for inspection as I type this. No indication at this point if there is a problem but they are being inspected so obviously they were not cleared in the manufacturing process before they left Japan.

Not true, because you don't know the EXACT reason your GX is on hold. There isn't a dealer out there that has that info. There are rumors circulating about sunroofs being the cause, but still no actual concrete official reason.

The GX, according to the Toyota/Lexus recall filing, is not part of the recall. In order for the GX to be affected, motors built in 2022 would have to still be available to the Tahara plant for install in the early GX builds. If that actually happened, then it could be argued that Toyota/Lexus is now a whole lot more incompetent than anyone realized, and would be in danger of losing a whole lot of loyal customers.

 

[Ben O]

My GX 550 Overtrail is due the 1st part of July. After looking deeply into this engine problem (I build engines) I believe Toyota has been doing the right thing and been as honest as they can as the problem surfaced. It looks to me the aluminum block channel leading to the front main bearing had flakes of aluminum left. This would be pushed to the bearing on initial start up since it was ahead of the filter there was nothing to catch it. Imaagine some particles at times bigger than others as the tool duled. Some maybe large enough to impeade oil flow and others small enough to lodge on the bearing surface which would lead to galling of the metal bearing surface.

It probably was a robotic process where air pressure blower or some other process was off. Probably the same type of machine used in all the Toyota engine plants It is probably Russian roulette who's engine is effected and who's is just fine. I trust they fixed it now and they have far less percentage failures from the Japanese made engines. These twin turbos are plenty tough and will last as long as I need it. My 2013 3.5 liter Ecoboost I bought new changed my own Mobil 1 Full synthetic oil @7,500 miles has 160,000 miles and only a water pump seal failed. Toyota V35A is going to be better than this IMHO except for the ones that have failed by an improper process not an improper design.

Question for you, would you suggest an engine flush to help reduce the possibility of bearing failure? If I remember correctly (a few years ago) whenever I purchased a new car from Lexus I had a 1K service that included an oil change. It use to be highly recommended to change your oil/filter after the first 1000 miles on any new car of course todays tolerances are much tighter. After a bit of thought… I’m scheduling an oil change tomorrow, I just hit 1K miles.

 

[WWoodyWood]

Not true, because you don't know the EXACT reason your GX is on hold. There isn't a dealer out there that has that info. There are rumors circulating about sunroofs being the cause, but still no actual concrete official reason.

The GX, according to the Toyota/Lexus recall filing, is not part of the recall. In order for the GX to be affected, motors built in 2022 would have to still be available to the Tahara plant for install in the early GX builds. If that actually happened, then it could be argued that Toyota/Lexus is now a whole lot more incompetent than anyone realized, and would be in danger of losing a whole lot of loyal customers.

My dealer said it was 100% due to the clearcoat/paint damage issues.

 

[1 due]

Are you positive that your hold is related to the engine recall?? Cause I've heard the GX hold could be related to a bunch of stuff including sunroof, paint etc.

All these rumors or facts are possible only Toyota/Lexus knows and their not talking even though they said they would give updates I’ve been using Q-tips for my ears to hear from them ONLY SILENTNESS!!!

 

[NoriGreen]

Not true as mine is on hold in port for inspection as I type this. No indication at this point if there is a problem but they are being inspected so obviously they were not cleared in the manufacturing process before they left Japan.

In truth, none of us consumers know with 100% certainty the reason for the QC hold.
But, some dealers have gotten word that the hold is due to a kinked plastic housing piece on the sunroof that can potentially cause leaking and some have a hold due to the protective plastic on the hood that scratched the paint.

All more reason why Toyota should just be transparent with us.

The machining debris effecting the engines is well documented on exactly which vins were affected.

 

[jclaffee]

The machining debris effecting the engines is well documented on exactly which vins were affected.

I don't believe this is the case...we'll see.

 

[NoriGreen]

I don't believe this is the case...we'll see.

The detailed recall announcement mentioned the build dates of affected engines. So unless they’re lying they do know.

 

[Michael T]

The detailed recall announcement mentioned the build dates of affected engines. So unless they’re lying they do know.

There are “claims” of tundra engine main bearing failures in 2024 model tundras. If the claims are true, then the 2024’s are outside the posted recall manufacture dates.

Additionally, it can be inferred that hybrids were not included in recall because the electric motors would still provide some power if the main bearing fails on main engine (per the explanation on the recall)

 

[jclaffee]

The detailed recall announcement mentioned the build dates of affected engines. So unless they’re lying they do know.

That's now how it works. The initial recall dates mean that they've collected enough data on those particular vehicles to decide they should issue a recall. There's absolutely nothing to ensure that as they continue to gather data on newer vehicles that the date range or models included won't get expanded. It has nothing to do with lying.

 

[Bmose]

If the GX550 gets recalled, I have one for sale if you’re waiting I have had 3 cars with engine repairs and they were never the same after. Fingers crossed they corrected the issue.

 

[Warrantero]

Go to the Motor Oil Geek YouTube channel. He is a Certified Lubrication Specialists. He has scientific proof on why to change your first time oil change at 500 miles etc. He does an oil analysis to prove his point. He does this on a brand new Toyota. I plan on following this protocol on my GX 550 and I have the Amsoil test kits in hand ready for my first change. I learned this a long time ago when Audi recommended long interval changes. I when with the old and maybe somewhat excessive 3000 mile interval with synthetic oil. My engine did not have the sludge failures the the other 1.8T engines did. Now I will change my initial oil at 500 miles to start with in order to get the engine milling stuff out immediately.

I was planning an oil change at 600 miles and the end of the break in period. Then 5k intervals after that.

 

[1 due]

That's now how it works. The initial recall dates mean that they've collected enough data on those particular vehicles to decide they should issue a recall. There's absolutely nothing to ensure that as they continue to gather data on newer vehicles that the date range or models included won't get expanded. It has nothing to do with lying.

How about providing the updates the promised where is the line

 

[rancejunge]

Question for you, would you suggest an engine flush to help reduce the possibility of bearing failure? If I remember correctly (a few years ago) whenever I purchased a new car from Lexus I had a 1K service that included an oil change. It use to be highly recommended to change your oil/filter after the first 1000 miles on any new car of course todays tolerances are much tighter. After a bit of thought… I’m scheduling an oil change tomorrow, I just hit 1K miles.

I Plan to change my oil at 1000 miles on my new GX 550 plus I will cut open the oil filter to see if any debris is in it. Next oil change will be at 6000 miles and keep checking the oil filters for any metal particles. I would not flush an engine but would change the oil at 5000 miles.

 

[1 due]

I Plan to change my oil at 1000 miles on my new GX 550 plus I will cut open the oil filter to see if any debris is in it. Next oil change will be at 6000 miles and keep checking the oil filters for any metal particles. I would not flush an engine but would change the oil at 5000 miles.

Let’s first find out what the issues are on these holds definitelyif you have a GX stay on top of oil changes but when they give us a reasonable answer they should free oil changes and flushes not part of the service a new GX WOULD GET let’s get some answers from the people in the know hope all who received their GX’S ARE problem free

 

[Ben O]

Let’s first find out what the issues are on these holds definitelyif you have a GX stay on top of oil changes but when they give us a reasonable answer they should free oil changes and flushes not part of the service a new GX WOULD GET let’s get some answers from the people in the know hope all who received their GX’S ARE problem free

You are correct, Lexus should provide a response clarifying the hold on initial builds. There may not be any issue regarding the engine specific to the 2024 GX however changing the oil early and more often is never a bad idea! So far I feel lucky… after every wash I check for leaks and the paint looks ok. Hoping there will not be a recall in the future regarding the engine in the GX or for any other part of the drivetrain.
It’s troublesome to me that there are holds happening, rumors about possible engine issues and complaints about excessive vibration.
This model is a pleasure to drive (mine is a Premium +) every time I get in it I smile! Smooth, quiet, great engine/transmission response it is a perfect size for me and my family/friends love the ride.

 

[Ben O]

Go to the Motor Oil Geek YouTube channel. He is a Certified Lubrication Specialists. He has scientific proof on why to change your first time oil change at 500 miles etc. He does an oil analysis to prove his point. He does this on a brand new Toyota. I plan on following this protocol on my GX 550 and I have the Amsoil test kits in hand ready for my first change. I learned this a long time ago when Audi recommended long interval changes. I when with the old and maybe somewhat excessive 3000 mile interval with synthetic oil. My engine did not have the sludge failures the the other 1.8T engines did. Now I will change my initial oil at 500 miles to start with in order to get the engine milling stuff out immediately.

Thanks for the YouTube suggestion. I watched the video regarding his daughter’s new car oil changes and it’s “old school” version of changing oil especially during the break in period. Already changed my oil at 1200 miles and will do it again at 5K miles to play it safe. Also the new engine takes more oil than past models, 7.7 quarts.

 

[JPE]

There's some interesting information in this video regarding the engine failures and recall in Tundras and LXs, especially the fact that the short block and partial engine assemblies for those models were superseded in February 2024.