Orders with moonroof delete - Overtrail

[Bluegill]

All OT GXs sold in Hawaii have the sunroof delete option, ours included.

Why would that be? Tsunami survival safety spec?

 

[Bluegill]

"Doc fees" is sort of a catch all phrase. When I asked in those "gimme the OTD price" discussions at multiple different dealers, and keeping in mind I'm a sample of one, I've gotten different but similar answers, such as "it's our fee for Docusign services," or "it's what we charge to process the sale" or "our internal documentation and paperwork processing fee."

That last explanation sort of makes sense. However in that light so would "$125, that's our fee for having a receptionist", and "$20, that's our fee for having chilled bottles of water on hand to offer to you," and "$100, that's the fee for pulling new vehicles into this nice, shiny-floor, indoor showroom so we all have something to look at while you decide if you want to part ways with your hard-earned money! (So stop bothering me until you're ready to buy something!)"

Exactly....the Documentation Fee is just another cash grab. The dealer is trained to act like the doc fee was handed down to Moses on a stone tablet and you can not question it. A simple compromise to preserve the sacred doc fee is to just get the dealer to agree to drop the overall price by $500. I'll happily pay your $250 doc fee if you drop the vehicle price by $500.

 

[Risk-Fate]

Why would that be? Tsunami survival safety spec?

I have no idea. The other trim levels have them here. Our requirements were no sunroof and no third row seating. The OT was perfect.

 

[Bluegill]

My requirement was an Overtrail base or +. My wish was Atomic Silver and no sunroof and minimal port & dealer B.S. add-ons. I ended up with white, no sunroof, and way too many add-ons but the dealer was willing to negotiate the price down to somewhat-reasonable. Thankfully I did not have to buy the Overtrail roof rack.

 

[SteelWorker]

The roof rack must be one of the higher margin PIO items.

I think I posted about it and my experiences to date in another thread, where some "MSRP dealers" get from lexus offer for sale models loaded with all these PIO add ons. A roof rock PIO add-on is a sure sign they (or Lexus) are trying to extra hard to squeeze every last dollar out of a sales transaction.