stock oem OT wheels and tires sl vs lt tires (2 Viewers)
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Thanks for posting your observation. I too would have thought that a taller sidewall would have meant a smoother ride.
Note that the video above is comparing Standard Load (SL) to E-rated LT tires, not C-rated LT tires.
For our relatively heavy trucks, I'm much more comfortable with a C-rated tire vs. the stock SL rating. Look at how many people are posting about the stock Overtrail tires getting punctures on fire roads.
The Lexus GX is roughly 1,105 to 1,395 pounds heavier than the Tacoma.
Several factors play into that. It’s not an apples to apples comparison. An MT tire is not the best for on road comfort. Different construction and rubber compound for off road use.
| GX550 2025 Model | Curb Weight (approx.) | Details |
|---|---|---|
| Premium | 5,585 lbs | 7-seater configuration. |
| Premium+ | 5,605 lbs | 7-seater configuration with added features. |
| Luxury | 5,675 lbs | 7-seater configuration with added luxury equipment. |
| Luxury+ | 5,710 lbs | 7-seater configuration with the most features. |
| Overtrail | 5,675 lbs | 5-seater configuration with off-road enhancements. |
| Overtrail+ | 5,705 lbs | 5-seater configuration with the most off-road features. |
Average of all of the above is 5659.
Difference between lightest (Premium) and heaviest (Luxury+) is only 125 lbs.
I consider these to be heavy trucks. They are right up there with the Cadillac Escalade and Chevy Suburban. I considered my old Land Rover Discoveries to be heavy and they weighed 4465 lbs (1996), 4600 lbs (2004), and 5623 lbs (2013). Although now the relative term "heavy" has to include monstrosities like the electric Hummer at 9500+ lbs.
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the two factors that are not fully understood is the impact of offset and heavier wheel tire package on suspension dampening and tuning . I’ll do some research to see how they are impacted .
tires are just about the only item in the consumer market that you can’t experience before the purchase. Think about this. All important factors such as road noise , drivability, etc are a total crapshoot before the install. There are some general rules of thumb but that’s about it . I can’t really find a parallel experience in any other commonly purchased item. There has to be a business case to solve this common issue . If I were to guess I’d say atleast 30 percent of buyers end up unhappy with tire purchases. Maybe it’s time to invest in some software simulation tools or general tire consultant AI tool.
people like us that like to get into the details and do our research still get it wrong now imagine an average buyer that walks into a tire shop and just ask for a bigger tire and ends up with a f load 20 inch falkens on their tundra weighing 80 lbs
tires are just about the only item in the consumer market that you can’t experience before the purchase. Think about this. All important factors such as road noise , drivability, etc are a total crapshoot before the install. There are some general rules of thumb but that’s about it . I can’t really find a parallel experience in any other commonly purchased item. There has to be a business case to solve this common issue . If I were to guess I’d say atleast 30 percent of buyers end up unhappy with tire purchases. Maybe it’s time to invest in some software simulation tools or general tire consultant AI tool.
people like us that like to get into the details and do our research still get it wrong now imagine an average buyer that walks into a tire shop and just ask for a bigger tire and ends up with a f load 20 inch falkens on their tundra weighing 80 lbs
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A parallel would be a couch … you can sit on it at the store , but won’t know till you live with it …. Or better yet a mattress lol
Kinda like all the available suspensions on the market. What's better, King, Icon, Radflo, etc.? You don't know until you install them and use them to your specific purpose. Hopefully if they have adjustable dampening you can tune them to your needs. However, you really don't know until you do it, and then the time/money investment makes you live with it regardless of how it turned out.
And then there's marriage...
Ah why you gotta bring up marriage …. That’s an expensive test drive right there ….
AI can't drive or go out in the wild.
Every tire is a compromise based on the owner's priority of needs. I landed up going with the KO3 275/70 18 and stayed with OT+ OEM wheels. After getting only 8 kms up the gravel road before getting a flat on the stock Toyo, we had to jump back into the GX every time a logging truck went by because of the dust storm while we were changing the flat tire. Locals say every time time they grade the road, someone gets a flat. We out earlier this with a buddy and he also got a flat on his 4 Runner on KO2's on our way to the Salmon Glacier outside Hyder Ak so you never know. I wanted durability as we do go to remote places and one has to get back. After a flat, there is no spare. I will be getting a patch kit but our Toyo was not repairable. I bought 5 new tires so they all match. 3000 km's later I'm still happy with my tires purchased at Costco plus I have North America wide warranty & service second to none. The tires are great. Tows better, mileage doesn't seem to have changed much, I'm not at the edge of the spec for my OEM wheel as I would have been with a 285 and my wife hasn't even noticed I changed tires. Overall handling seems a little better than the stock Toyo's.
Figure out your needs and you'll have your tire.
Every tire is a compromise based on the owner's priority of needs. I landed up going with the KO3 275/70 18 and stayed with OT+ OEM wheels. After getting only 8 kms up the gravel road before getting a flat on the stock Toyo, we had to jump back into the GX every time a logging truck went by because of the dust storm while we were changing the flat tire. Locals say every time time they grade the road, someone gets a flat. We out earlier this with a buddy and he also got a flat on his 4 Runner on KO2's on our way to the Salmon Glacier outside Hyder Ak so you never know. I wanted durability as we do go to remote places and one has to get back. After a flat, there is no spare. I will be getting a patch kit but our Toyo was not repairable. I bought 5 new tires so they all match. 3000 km's later I'm still happy with my tires purchased at Costco plus I have North America wide warranty & service second to none. The tires are great. Tows better, mileage doesn't seem to have changed much, I'm not at the edge of the spec for my OEM wheel as I would have been with a 285 and my wife hasn't even noticed I changed tires. Overall handling seems a little better than the stock Toyo's.
Figure out your needs and you'll have your tire.
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Sure but suspension change is for 10-20% of people where tire change is almost for everyone
If you are going to 35s, you really should be upgrading suspension, unless it's just for looks and you don't care about performance, but I'm just one of those who swaps out suspension about as soon as I get a new vehicle home.
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You are 2/2 wrong on both your comments on this thread as well as the other.
1.You claimed that your mpg on the bronco improved going from 35s to 37s that are 20 lbs heavier. I’m willing to bet you 10k that is incorrect
2. 25 Ots come with 1 inch factory lift which allows for skinny 35 tires without any rubbing at full articulation .
3. Swapping out suspension on IFS does not gain articulation, without changing the lower control arms . So you are not gaining offroad functionality by lifting on the new Toyota platform, not to mention the loss of adjustable shocks on the OT.
Well, I'm not the only one with a Bronco that saw an improvement from 35s to 37s, but I'll let you go on your personal experience with a Bronco on 37s. I don't need your money, so no reason to cough it up so easily.
If you want to hang more weight on the stock suspension, go for it. I don't. I probably will be less likely to complain about my results, but again, do what makes you happy.
2. 1 inch lift but the shock lengths are the same …. Just to clarify
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As a matter of fact I do.
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