Overtrail Replacement Tires (2 Viewers)

[BoostedGX]

My gawd

 

[Sixgun95]

I'll give you just the highlights... cut bead in half when removing OEM tire, (replaced tire), wrong rotation (I now mark my tires), gouged outside of wheel when removing OEMs (repaired wheel), gouged outside of wheel AGAIN at 10k rotation (replaced wheel).. Work done at two different shops. Been using these guys for over 25 years and there has been a serious decline in quality of service the past couple years

Wow! My Scottsdale shop has been amazing for the 15 yrs. I have been going there. Discounts quality control is usually excellent at all levels, but leadership changes and so does quality, maybe its that time! Or maybe that store manager just sucks.

 

[ACJS]

I replaced the stock Toyos with BFG KO3s, stock size. Very happy so far. Avg mpgs down a bit to 16.9. Was at 17.5-18 combined on the Toyos.

How much weight did it take to balance? Ive been hearing these new KO3s are hard to balance and need a lot of weights to get it right.

 

[Bluegill]

Wow! My Scottsdale shop has been amazing for the 15 yrs. I have been going there. Discounts quality control is usually excellent at all levels, but leadership changes and so does quality, maybe its that time! Or maybe that store manager just sucks.

I became friends with a Big Tires store manager (the old Big that was near 64th St on Thomas) back in the late 90s when I had a Jeep. My business went with him when he became the manager of Discount Tires on Scottsdale Road & Oak. Then I followed him up to the Discount at Frank Lloyd Wright & the 101. I had a company in the early 2000s and we spent over $50k per year on tires for our fleet exclusively at Discount so my buddy always hooked me up well on price for personal tires. Unfortunately he retired and now I just make sure that I hang around and chat with the guys working on my tires now. I had Discount at FLW & 101 put a 34" spare Toyo under my GX. If you hang out with them then they make the extra effort not to screw it up. They'll actually use torque wrenches, be careful not to damage your wheels, etc. I wouldn't be confident dropping my truck off and picking it back up sight unseen at Discount anymore. I have the Lexus dealer rotate my GX tires with each 5k service visit. When it comes time to buy new tires, I'll probably pay the premium to have the dealer install buy them if needed, and install them.

 

[BackRdRnr]

I wouldn't be confident dropping my truck off and picking it back up sight unseen at Discount anymore. I have the Lexus dealer rotate my GX tires with each 5k service visit. When it comes time to buy new tires, I'll probably pay the premium to have the dealer install buy them if needed, and install them.

ditto Bill's advice! I have recently received replacement wheels from Discount after a service there. They were good about it, but I'm now known by the techs as the guy who complained. I would rather be on better terms but the damage was not excusable. I do not have a Lexus dealer but I have a shop that I will go to that is more expensive and particular. Those new tires and wheels just have to stay perfect!

 

[Sixgun95]

Wow! My Scottsdale shop has been amazing for the 15 yrs. I have been going there. Discounts quality control is usually excellent at all levels, but leadership changes and so does quality, maybe its that time!

I became friends with a Big Tires store manager (the old Big that was near 64th St on Thomas) back in the late 90s when I had a Jeep. My business went with him when he became the manager of Discount Tires on Scottsdale Road & Oak. Then I followed him up to the Discount at Frank Lloyd Wright & the 101. I had a company in the early 2000s and we spent over $50k per year on tires for our fleet exclusively at Discount so my buddy always hooked me up well on price for personal tires. Unfortunately he retired and now I just make sure that I hang around and chat with the guys working on my tires now. I had Discount at FLW & 101 put a 34" spare Toyo under my GX. If you hang out with them then they make the extra effort not to screw it up. They'll actually use torque wrenches, be careful not to damage your wheels, etc. I wouldn't be confident dropping my truck off and picking it back up sight unseen at Discount anymore. I have the Lexus dealer rotate my GX tires with each 5k service visit. When it comes time to buy new tires, I'll probably pay the premium to have the dealer install buy them if needed, and install them.

Next time go to the Discount at 20555 N Scottsdale Rd. Bldg 7, Scottsdale, AZ 85255. They are the #1 store for the company and its right next door to the HQ Bldg. It is night and day compared to the one at FLW & 101, which my company used as well for a long time with occasional issues. My neighbor is a VP for Discount, he said it's the visibility from HQ, the clientele and only their best managers get that store.

 

[Bluegill]

Ah, yes, the one just past Thompson Peak Parkway, at the corner of Scottsdale Road & Discount Drive.....makes sense! Next time I need Discount, I'll visit that store, thanks for the tip.

 

[JeffS]

285/70 will fit in spare loc. You can run a larger tire on the ‘25s bc of the lift. 285/75 here View attachment 14233

I have the same Earth OT plus, looks great. What about the spare with 285/75/18 and the KO3’s?

 

[MEVANSNC]

I was looking to trade my OT due to ride quality, but after some upgrades, 18 x 8.5 Vossens with 35 offset and Falken AT4s stock size , SL load. Also added peak spacer and Ikon control arms. Great ride!

 

[MEVANSNC]

I was looking to trade my OT due to ride quality, but after some upgrades, 18 x 8.5 Vossens with 35 offset and Falken AT4s stock size , SL load. Also added peak spacer and Ikon control arms. Great ride!

Looks like this picture is before I replaced the tires

 

[Counselor2025]

I have a 2025 OT. Any thoughts on putting a 285/70/R18 (probably KO3's) on the OEM rims and towing a 4500 lb RV Lance travel trailer? Would the narrow rim be of concern for stability?

 

[RPMSTL]

I was looking to trade my OT due to ride quality, but after some upgrades, 18 x 8.5 Vossens with 35 offset and Falken AT4s stock size , SL load. Also added peak spacer and Ikon control arms. Great ride!

What was the reason for the new upper control arms in respect to ride quality?

 

[DJ’s Sled]

I have a 2025 OT. Any thoughts on putting a 285/70/R18 (probably KO3's) on the OEM rims and towing a 4500 lb RV Lance travel trailer? Would the narrow rim be of concern for stability?

Is the 4500 lbs your typical, ready to tow weight? Or is it more?
I can see that the stated rim width for that tire is 7.5-9.5”. However, I don't think I’d be comfortable doing that. The tire is certainly perfectly capable..but you’ll want to inflate it up to 48, 50 psi to gain the advantage it offers. Not sure I’d be comfortable with that pressure on a 7.5” rim, and the bouncing of the trailer, etc.
But I’m simply not an expert in any way.

On my 2024 OT I started out with the stock suspension, the OE rims, and 275/70R18 Nitto TG G3’s, SL. Granted, the SL wasn’t the perfectly safe choice either. My trailer weighs around 5500 lbs loaded ready to go. The hitch is both WD and anti-sway.
After a few trips I realized I needed a more robust suspension AND a wider track AND stronger tire to gain more lateral (side to side) stability.

So that’s what I did.
I went with an 18x8 rim, with offset +25, and the Toyo AT3 285/70R18 E load. And a new suspension designed for heavier loads, but still extremely comfortable for everyday driving. The newer suspension has also eliminated bucking and excessive bouncing, it is set up to keep me level when towing too.
Between the new suspension, a wider track and stronger wider tires I’ve now got it down pat. I have no lateral instability. I’m using about 50 psi towing, and I’ve been shocked at how well it works past even 70 mph.

If your trailer is lighter, and you’re willing to install air bags in the back you can probably be fine with the stock suspension. However, I’d still advise you to go to a wider track setup with your wheel and tire combo. Use a stronger tire as you intend, and really think about a wider rim.
You’re on the right track, you’re asking the right questions.

 

[GX550Key]

I have a 2025 OT. Any thoughts on putting a 285/70/R18 (probably KO3's) on the OEM rims and towing a 4500 lb RV Lance travel trailer? Would the narrow rim be of concern for stability?

I went with the 275/70 18 KO3 for a little more margin with the OEM rims, towing an Escape 19 trailer. Really happy with the KO3 tires on and off road.

 

[Counselor2025]

Is the 4500 lbs your typical, ready to tow weight? Or is it more?
I can see that the stated rim width for that tire is 7.5-9.5”. However, I don't think I’d be comfortable doing that. The tire is certainly perfectly capable..but you’ll want to inflate it up to 48, 50 psi to gain the advantage it offers. Not sure I’d be comfortable with that pressure on a 7.5” rim, and the bouncing of the trailer, etc.
But I’m simply not an expert in any way.

On my 2024 OT I started out with the stock suspension, the OE rims, and 275/70R18 Nitto TG G3’s, SL. Granted, the SL wasn’t the perfectly safe choice either. My trailer weighs around 5500 lbs loaded ready to go. The hitch is both WD and anti-sway.
After a few trips I realized I needed a more robust suspension AND a wider track AND stronger tire to gain more lateral (side to side) stability.

So that’s what I did.
I went with an 18x8 rim, with offset +25, and the Toyo AT3 285/70R18 E load. And a new suspension designed for heavier loads, but still extremely comfortable for everyday driving. The newer suspension has also eliminated bucking and excessive bouncing, it is set up to keep me level when towing too.
Between the new suspension, a wider track and stronger wider tires I’ve now got it down pat. I have no lateral instability. I’m using about 50 psi towing, and I’ve been shocked at how well it works past even 70 mph.

If your trailer is lighter, and you’re willing to install air bags in the back you can probably be fine with the stock suspension. However, I’d still advise you to go to a wider track setup with your wheel and tire combo. Use a stronger tire as you intend, and really think about a wider rim.
You’re on the right track, you’re asking the right questions.

Thanks for the response. Your GX is nicely leveled. Assuming I stay with the OEM rims, I will consider a different tire size. So what suspension system did you add? I use the Blue Ox for WD and sway control. I towed the trailer for maybe 10 miles. A bit different than towing with the Tundra TRD PRO that I traded in for the GX. It became painfully obvious that the OEM tires are not appropriate for towing.

 

[DJ’s Sled]

Thanks for the response. Your GX is nicely leveled. Assuming I stay with the OEM rims, I will consider a different tire size. So what suspension system did you add? I use the Blue Ox for WD and sway control. I towed the trailer for maybe 10 miles. A bit different than towing with the Tundra TRD PRO that I traded in for the GX. It became painfully obvious that the OEM tires are not appropriate for towing.

Ok..so for sure you know what to do.
I had a similar situation when I moved from our ‘22 Sequoia that we traded for the GX. It was of course heavier, longer and wider track.

So without checking..I believe there are several 275/70R18 E rated tires to choose from. Those would fit better on the 7.5” rim, and should be more safe at the psi you need, and give you the lateral stability you need.
I have seen where others on this forum have added wheel spacers for various reasons. That might be an excellent option to get a wider track.
When I was at Slee Offroad having my suspension installed we discussed that very topic. They have a company in Denver they work with exclusively that produces their wheel spacers when needed.
You could get that info, and also ask their opinion of using a stronger spring in the rear to keep things level.

I did basically a full suspension upgrade. It’s the ARB/OME MT64 kit, including a new UCA. It’s marketed as their midrange upgrade. The front struts can be adjusted in the future if I add more weight there. And similar we can swap out the current rear spring for a heavier set when/if necessary. Right now I’m set up with a small amount of rake, so when the trailer is added it all goes to level.