I’m interested in an OT/OT+ and have been doing quite a bit of research. Here’s how I’m looking at it:
- Context matters when asking for advice. There’s nothing wrong with researching the issue, but sharing why you’re interested and how you plan to use the vehicle helps others give more relevant feedback. For example, I don’t tow. I don't keep cars longer than 3–5 years and don’t have kids, but I regularly take long road trips and explore remote parts of the country. Getting stranded wouldn’t be the end of the world, but it would piss me off enough that I’d probably swear off Toyota/Lexus for good. Everyone has different priorities and risk tolerances, so the forum's answers will vary by person/poster. I'd assume stressing the engine with heavy towing likely increases your chances. If you have kids but don't tow - go Land Cruiser 250.
- The issue appears to extend beyond the original recall population.The recall has affected 2024 GXs, but there have also been reports involving replacement engines and 2025 and I believe 2026 models. Toyota attributes the issue to machining debris, but given the continued reports, it’s reasonable to question whether there’s a deeper design issue at play:
- The actual failure rate is difficult to verify. The numbers aren’t fully transparent, reportedly due in part to NDAs. Based on the total recall population and reported engine failures, estimates cite around 7,500 engines have failed out of approximately 270,000 recalled vehicles - less than 3%. Estimate, not confirmed failure rate.
- Toyota has introduced an updated repair procedure and replacement parts. My understanding is that the remedy includes updated engine components, potentially including a revised crankshaft. However, it’s difficult to determine whether this will permanently resolve the issue, particularly given reports involving 2025 models.
- Toyota is using an acoustic AI-based diagnostic tool. The tool analyzes engine sounds to assess the condition of the main bearings and help determine whether an engine qualifies for replacement. Honestly, my take is a way for them to cut costs.. and definitely not how I'd want my car handled. Imagine the tool diagnoses your engine as a non-recall, then it fails outside of your warranty period? omfg lol
- Look at the alternatives, too. GMC, Chevrolet, and Cadillac have current recalls affecting hundreds of thousands of vehicles, Ford has had major engine-related recalls involving models like the Bronco and F-150, and Nissan/Infiniti have had recalls affecting the QX50/QX55. Every manufacturer has its own set of issues. Toyota has historically had one of the strongest reputations for reliability, but unfortunately, shopping in this segment may come down to weighing the risks rather than finding a completely risk-free option.
don't forget - Toyota has recalled multiple engines in the past, with issues that they later resolved. The engines later became solid - 1MZ-FE, 2AZ-FE, 2GR-FE, etc.
Ultimately, I’d weigh the risk against how you actually plan to use the vehicle. If you’re leasing or trading it in within a few years, your calculus might be very different from someone planning to keep it for a decade and take it deep into remote areas.
Hope this helps, its interesting to me - thanks for letting me nerd-out a bit